As much as I respect the concept of an opinion, forcing others to adhere to yours is just distasteful. Just stop using Armour, and any possible Bedouin affiliation that you may have been generating will be gone.

What will happen to Armour? It makes for such a beautiful graphic! And I like being able to foil Mines during my net strolls.

I also imagine that the price of Armour will fall soon as well--to fall into pace with the prices of Mines and St. Nicks. And to be priced to be properly in tune with how much damage the Mines cause to unprotected dp.

by pixielo 5 months ago
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Bedouins don't just give armor away. You get Bedouin points for setting off mines and being protected. Bedouins keep other players from losing DP by setting off mines.

by scarybug 5 months ago
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@Jwilk Why all the anger? I like the game--and I just don't see why you need to be unpleasant at all.

[Yes, I am forcing people because I'm actually the game developer and I'm calling the all the shots on PMOG. This was just warning post so when I remove the class your not surprised.]
Please chill out. I'm not a Bedouin, I just like the armour!

[You must be a fan of republican politics the way you jump down everyones posts and insert words in there mouths as a scare tactic.]
Scaring who? Insert words? Hmm...maybe a foot, but no words.

[So if I'm a hidden millionaire and decide to pull my seed funding because the the Bedouin concept then you can go ranting about me forcing people do do anything.]
If you're a hidden millionaire, you are a very lucky person. Congratulations on your success!

[Here's a hint jacko, were in BETA and trying to give feedback to flesh out, develop and improve the game.]

I don't see the need to call me names.

[If anything your verbal attacks criticizing peoples opinions does nothing but stifle game development.]
Critizing opinons does nothing for anyone--including you.

Have a nice day!

by pixielo 5 months ago
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"The Bedouins faction just seems very boring and conceptually shallow. It just doesn't stand on its own to be a faction."

That's probably why we get three associations...

The core game design is: "Here are several tools--pick 3!" If there's demand for a tool, somebody will try to get in that class.

by harmless 5 months ago
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@jwilk
From a game play standpoint the Bedouin seems like a "Jack of all Trades" class.
It's not a benefactor, since it only gives armor,
It's not a Vigilante, since it uses a different tactic to take out mines.

From the way I would understand the different rolls, the Bedouin is a MineSweeper. It's purpose would fall under seeking out mined locations and dealing with the mines for others.

Currently I actively scan the events list and look for mines that have been deployed. I'll go to the page and trigger them. I'll double check to make sure they are all gone. If it's more than a single mine, I might even deploy a few St. Nicks on the Destroyer who mined the site.

Now, from a gameplay standpoint the 'hybrid classes' won't be for everyone. We already see this is true for the Bedouin's just by looking at the amount of missions we have.

I would have to agree that this Association needs a little tweaking. What if triggering a mine with your armor gains the Bedouin DP? (think 'Tank Class')
Perhaps making armor purchases cheaper Bedouins? -- a continuation of that idea would apply to all of the Associations. Vigilantes get cheaper St. Nicks, Destroyers get cheaper mines, etc.

I'm no game designer, so these would have to be scrutinized for balance of course.

*edit*
jwilk & pixielo :
Stop reading into each others posts for tone. I think you both interpreted each others replies a little out-of-context.
Pixielo was replying very matter of factly.
jwilk was contimplating ideas of the class.

Let's try not to get too touchy about our opinions, shall we?

by bando 5 months ago
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Does the idea of the game developer bashing his own creation without any real tact seem odd to anyone else? Also, the lack of good grammar and spelling ("This was just warning post so when I remove the class your not surprised.") as well as non-sequitur rants and personal attacks... I call bull.

If he really is the game developer, then I'm not so sure I want to be playing this anymore.

by cwonder 5 months ago
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@cwonder: He was speaking sarcastically when he said he was one of the game's developers.

Took me a couple reads to get that. Reading tone on the Internet is tough sometimes :(

by capstinence 5 months ago
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or even make a small incentive for Bedouins to go into mined areas and clear them out.

by siva-guren 5 months ago
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something like that yeah ;)

by siva-guren 5 months ago
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I like the class, and I like the armor, but I'm a little confused. Correct me if I'm wrong, but stepping on a mine with armor on = 1/10 loss of a 100 DP item. Stepping on a mine without armor = loss of 10 DP if you have any left: essentially, you're losing the same number of DP with or without armor on, less if you keep your DP at or close to zero. So, other than the smug satisfaction of having 'foiled' a mine instead of 'triggering' it, what's the benefit of wearing armor?

It seems that to make the class more useful, either armor should be a little cheaper/more durable, or mines should do more damage to unprotected players. I also like the idea of a 'defusing' item, a detector that tells you how many mines are on a page, or of getting bonus points for foiling bombs if you're a bedouin.

by tara 5 months ago
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These are good ideas! Thanks for trying to get along with each other. :)

by merci 5 months ago
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