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anguis Level 9 Posts: 7 |
I know I haven't been here all that long but I try to take missions pretty often. My problem is that not only do some people link to Wiki two or more times in a mission, but better than 50% of the missions I've taken do as well. So if I take five missions in a day, each with a Wiki link, there's no gain. The more important issue for me is that Wiki is not the end all and be all of information. It's only as accurate as the contributers. |
rossruns![]() Level 10 Posts: 67 |
1) Take the time to send a pmail to the people whose missions you are taking and give them feedback to this effect - they only way they'll learn not to do this is if someone tells them. 2) Take missions that have been highly rated and have been taken by numerous people. These are (in most cases) the prime mission makers on PMOG who come up with interesting, entertaining, and more importantly, well-thought out missions that avoid PMOG and wikipedia when possible. As for wiki accuracy, I find about 90% of what I see there turns out to be accurate. If it's a subject where I seem to know more accurately than what's written, I'll take the time to correct the entry. I wouldn't use it to write a paper, but as a place to get 80% up to speed on a subject in less than 5 minutes time, it can't be beat. If you find yourself wanting to know more, it's time to do some in depth research, including but not limited to a search for journal publications on the topic, other resource media, websites for various advocacy groups on the topic, etc. |
phantomiec![]() Level 10 Posts: 23 |
It all really depends where the information is stored. Wiki is, unfortunatley for those looking for dp, the fountain of knowledge on the internet and more often that not the information is allready in laymans terms so info doesn't need dumbing down. However from time to time the information is elsewhere and it would be worth pmoggers time to link to these sites. Reason being the mission maker will get dp during the initial search and we all know that you can never get enough dp. For the mission i'm currently making i'm trying to avoid repeatition as much as possible and i'm looking too as many different info sites as possible. However i have had to link to wiki once, some times you just have to go to the fountain. |
pixielo![]() Level 20 Posts: 3706 |
If I find a good Wiki article, I tend to check the links that it uses for background--those are the raw sites, usually full of pictures and other things that are good in missions. P.S. I do love the Wiki, and I find it to be spot-on for info the vast majority of the time. Those topics upon which I am qualified to comment are always correct, and if they aren't--they're damn close. |
gurodragon1![]() Level 15 Posts: 27 |
Lol, you guys must've took my mission with 3 wiki pages on it. Sorry bout that. I would've used another site info but I am trying to get the Indie badge. Wiki is always my 2nd site to look at. but not more than 50%.
But I do agree with you. Most mission uses Wiki so it's like fitting in somehow. |
aerozol![]() Level 16 Posts: 66 |
"I wouldn't use it to write a paper"
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kittyhawk![]() Level 6 Posts: 68 |
For a group like this one, wikipedia is probably the most agreed useful resource. It's not allways right, but no web page will ever be that. |
the-nearest-exit![]() Level 7 Posts: 32 |
I do everything in my power to avoid linking to Wikipedia, and really, I find it quite easy. There's a wealth of information out there, on topics you wouldn't expect. Sure, it's useful for getting an idea of where you want to go with a mission, but that's about it. |
rossruns![]() Level 10 Posts: 67 |
@aerozol: You use it to write papers, and you cite Wikipedia? Your professors/teachers must love that. |
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scarybug Level 10 Posts: 115 |
You use wikipedia to find information, but you should use the sources they cite to write any actual papers. It's still very useful. I don't mind people using wikipedia in missions if it makes sense. Also "Wiki" is not a synonym for wikipedia =P |
pixielo![]() Level 20 Posts: 3706 |
@rossruns You don't 'cite the Wikipedia,' you use their sources...their links are good, and provide lots of sources without a ton of effort. And then you cite those sources... |
rossruns![]() Level 10 Posts: 67 |
For those who say you're citing other than wikipedia: In that case, you're not using Wikipedia to write your paper, you are using it to find your research sources. Unless of course, you're actually just citing these other sources while using the information you glean off the Wikipedia page, in which case you're fraudulently citing sources [possibly out of context]. But I hope nobody would do this - I know of many instances where my teachers actually took the time and effort to do a random spot-check of citations to ensure that people weren't just making stuff up or citing other sources to flush out their annotated bibliography. It's got to be even easier in this day and age where over half the sources you cite are available online either as websites or scanned text. |
pixielo![]() Level 20 Posts: 3706 |
Exactly.
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scarybug Level 10 Posts: 115 |
Yes but wikipedia is still a tool to find the info, you read it to get a concise understanding, then go to the sources to verify the author wasn't making it up, and write the paper based on the source. Of course, as a CS major, I only ever had to write 4 papers in college, and Wikipedia was still in its infancy then so I didn't use it. |
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anguis Level 9 Posts: 7 |
@scarybug "Also "Wiki" is not a synonym for wikipedia" Language is an evolving system where usage ends up defining what something means. While there are people who try to hold on to definitions that are changing the rest of the world simply goes with the flow. And yes, I do agree that "Wiki" is not the official synonym for wikipedia but more and more people 'are' using it as "the" synonym. "Gay" also didn't used to "mean" what it does now. |
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scarybug Level 10 Posts: 115 |
Yes but wiki already means something. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that uses a wiki, but there are thousands of other wikis. I have a wiki at work that I use to document code. I'm the first person to argue that we should let language evolve naturally, so long as it isn't dumb. |
skawesome![]() Level 20 Posts: 50 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki ...seemed appropriate. >.> |
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