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ircecho


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Greetings,

i got a suggestion.

At the moment the progress meter shows all of your datapoints. In my opinion it should only show the datapoints collected since levelup and needed for the next one. It would be much better to read and is commonplace in rpgs.

by ircecho 5 months ago
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uselessness


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It might be nice to see both, if it wasn't confusing which was which. I use the toolbar to see how much I have available to spend.

by uselessness 5 months ago
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shyiskhar
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Wha? I thought the progress meter DID only show the DeePs you needed to level up?
Mine says I need 68382Dp and probably some tool usage, which is what I need to hit level 18...
Or did you mean the total amount of DeePs you have? I kinda like mine to tell me the truth. So I know how much I can spend...

by shyiskhar 5 months ago
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ircecho


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it never says how much you can spend it just shows your lifetime data points, thats not what a level progress meter should do

by ircecho 5 months ago
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chris2718


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Hmmm....my toolbar shows how much I can spend. The progress bar shows how many more DeePs I need to reach the next level. So whats wrong with that?

by chris2718 5 months ago
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uselessness


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Oh, nevermind, I was thinking you meant the progress meter in the toolbar. You mean the one on your profile. Nevermind. :-P

by uselessness 5 months ago
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sevenmacaw


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I think the problem that is trying to find expression here is that the progress bar is calculated using [lifetime dp / lifetime dp at next level] instead of [(lifetime dp - lifetime dp at last level) / (lifetime dp at next level - lifetime dp at last level)], which is how by-level progress bars traditionally work.

edit: sorry for the equation poisoning.

by sevenmacaw 5 months ago
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shyiskhar
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@ircecho, Wha? **Scratches head**
This is what I see. My lifetime DeePs aren't listed at all...

Make note of my awesome Gimpfu!

by shyiskhar 5 months ago
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sevenmacaw


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when you level up, the bar does not go back to zero. instead, it's somewhere between 50% and 100%.

by sevenmacaw 5 months ago
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shyiskhar
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Ahh. Sense is made. I never even look at the bar, I just read what it says...
Probably why I wasn't grasping that. In which case, I suppose it would make sense to zero it, as in your second equation.
Suggestion now approved by me.
(This means absolutely nothing.)

by shyiskhar 5 months ago
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rebeccablood


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I was thinking the reason it didn't go to zero was because it was also counting in your tool use - if you already have enough tool use for the next level, it will appear part-way along.

by rebeccablood 5 months ago
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birch262


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Yeah, that probably would make more sense, or if people prefer how it already is, maybe have the option that you can choose from either total number of dp or since last level up.

(@skyiskhar- nice plug of the DeePs!)

by birch262 5 months ago
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sevenmacaw


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@rebeccablood I completely forgot about tool usage!

by sevenmacaw 5 months ago
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shyiskhar
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Okay, so is that what it is? tool usage? That'd make sense, 'cos I don't need anymore tools used (4000 something mines is plenty for all levels). But then, I also could see Seven's theory working out too...

And thanks for noting the plug! The more people see it, the more likely they are to use it...

by shyiskhar 5 months ago
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spikeyboy


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A little confusing, no? Maybe we ought to have two lines instead of one bar; one for the DeePs and the other for the tools, both to reset after levelup (taking into account any use carried over)

by spikeyboy 5 months ago
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shyiskhar
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Problem with two bars is the extra space used up. It's pretty the way it is, it'd look odd with two bars.
What we need before drastic drasticity, is clarification from someone wiser than we.
Or else experimentation. TO THE ALT ACCOUNTS BATMAN! One of us do nothing but use tools, the other nothing but earn DeePs... We'll see how the bars change.
Then onto further experimentation. Anyone up for some pokage?

by shyiskhar 5 months ago
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spikeyboy


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I'm cool with that - you want to to take one or t'other?

by spikeyboy 5 months ago
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ircecho


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okey, heres a little screenshot to clear things up.

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(hope that html stuff works out)

so its like this:

1. thats like the stuff i dont want to see. its not giving information about my progress in this very level. the numbers (8 and 9) suggest that this bar is to show the advancement in this very level. i dont care about the stuff i already had when i got level eight. in my opinion, this just doesnt belong here.

2. this is what i want to see.

3. and theres nothing wrong with that either, i am just not talking about this.

by ircecho 5 months ago
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shyiskhar
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Spikey, I'll take tools. Experiment begins!

In order to fully test this, I required a 0 point. The first two levels are both not requiring of tools, So I leveled him up to level 3 on the dot (100dp earned, 2 tools used) which should put him at EXACTLY level three, and thus zero.
When PMOG catches up tomorrow I'll check to make sure the bar is clear. If it is that means I'm prolly safe to assume its all about tool and dp usage.
I shall then mine loopygrrl8 with 6 mines. One of which will make it through, but they'll still count. sorry ma'am.
Then, we'll wait and see if the bar shows changes.

by shyiskhar 5 months ago
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sevenmacaw


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Go Team Science!

by sevenmacaw 5 months ago
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birch262


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I like experiments!

by birch262 5 months ago
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ob3y


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I am interested in this experiment.

by ob3y 5 months ago
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