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tasogare Level 6 
VigilantePosts: 9 |
I'm not sure if this has been asked yet, since without a forum Search function I can't check, so I'm sorry if it's come up before. It seems that I can't get data points when visiting sites hosted on one domain. For example, I'm an avid GameFAQs browser, but after the initial points for going to the site I get no points browsing games, message boards, etc. The same goes for any other site with a forum hosted on it. Is this supposed to happen? |
pixielo Level 20 
PathmakerPosts: 3706 |
That's the entire point--you need to visit different top level domains... |
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tasogare Level 6
VigilantePosts: 9 |
Really? That seems...well, pretty lame. Why shouldn't someone just get datapoints for browsing in general? I know the idea is to explore, but to make level requirements as high as they are -and- only allow points from top-level domains. Eh. That's a huge turn off. Maybe instead there should be a larger amount of points for a top level domain and lesser for sites within the site...even if it's only a single point! |
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pixielo Level 20
PathmakerPosts: 3706 |
Then the Snowglobe Badge wouldn't have any meaning, since you could make points by spending an entire week on the Wikipedia... You do get points for 'browsing,' as in 'reading different sites.' If you only read a few sites, consider this the impetus to get out there and find different sources of information, education or entertainment... |
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lehall Steward  Level 11 
DestroyerPosts: 80 |
Yup, sorry... it's points for each unique url. That's what makes it Passive(ly) ;) That's what makes taking missions fun, and like Pixie said, it can be a good impetus to explore if you're taking a slightly more active approach. I've found StumbleUpon useful for those last few dp before a level, for example. |
zous Level 20
PathmakerPosts: 1035 |
The push is to make you want to spread out your interests. If you visit lots of pages but they're all on one site (I'm a GameFAQs user myself), you're not branching out much. I could understand them making it so that "www.gamefaqs.com" and "boards.gamefaqs.com" both getting you separate points, but just for surfing pages on one site and that's all, there's no reason for that. In that case, there'd be no push to branch out your interests. If you're looking for a way to make DP, I hear StumbleUpon is good. I personally go to Digg a lot, so I get plenty from that. |
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tasogare Level 6
VigilantePosts: 9 |
Like I said, I understand the whole point is exploration. Besides, as a librarian I hardly need any reason to browse elsewhere and learn more! I just think giving points only for new URLs might devolve things into a race of who manages to hit StumbleUpon the fastest. Heck, it makes things not very "passive" at all if you don't get any points for your daily, usual browsing! Ah, well. It's obvious this view isn't exactly shared. ^_^; Also, does anyone know the time limit for when a site gives points again? I went to Wikipedia earlier in the afternoon, now tonight I went back and didn't get any points. The same thing happened with a few other sites, too. Now, I -can- certainly agree with not alotting points for multiple visits within a certain period of time, but again...Anyone know exactly what that amount of time is? |
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pixielo Level 20
PathmakerPosts: 3706 |
24 hours...you can hit a site once every 24 hours for points... |
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zous Level 20
PathmakerPosts: 1035 |
ya, I think the real point of it is that the game should be so "passive" that not having DP shouldn't be an issue (because you shouldn't need that much of it). And trust me, if you want the DP for leveling, don't be in a rush to level. It's not worth it, it really does nothing for you. In fact, you just hurt yourself once you hit level 5. |
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pixielo Level 20
PathmakerPosts: 3706 |
Awww...I don't agree with Zous on the levelling exactly...
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zous Level 20
PathmakerPosts: 1035 |
I think right now everyone's associations are crazy fluid you have to admit there's no real plus to being this high of a level though... |
dogcat Level 9 
SeerPosts: 14 |
I think I'd like it if you could receive some tiny fraction of a point for browsing within a single domain after you hit level 5. It would provide incentive to level up, and allow people who spend much of their internet time at one forum or website to slowly accumulate points through their normal browsing. It could be as small as 1/10th to 1/20th of a point and still have significant benefits for some users. Might be worth giving a test run, and there is no better time than during the beta. ;) |
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tasogare Level 6
VigilantePosts: 9 |
Indeed, I second dogcat. Even a -fraction- of a point would be something. And a beta test is certainly the best time to test such things! :D |
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zous Level 20
PathmakerPosts: 1035 |
do I smell a "rich get richer" scheme? ;) |
maztec Level 19
PathmakerPosts: 55 |
It would still have to be limited to unique URLs. Otherwise things could be easily abused. My daily surfing habits net me about 300 points as it is. However, I use those sites a lot during the day and branching out . . . well just dilutes what I view to a point where it dilutes the experience. However, I love running into other peoples missions and portals bouncing from one article or interest to another. It is a great way to learn of other things. |
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dogcat Level 9
SeerPosts: 14 |
I was trying to address the current idea that there is no point to leveling up, and that many people view hitting level 5, and the limitations it introduces, as an impediment to their enjoyment of the game. The developers may have big plans for higher level characters that I know nothing about which would make this argument irrelevant, but for now it is something to think about. My typical day on the internet is primarily spent on a few forums I enjoy with a few trips to other sites for specific information gathering purposes. I'd guess that on an average day I'd earn less than 50 dp. Honestly, I'm a little surprised that people are visiting 150+ separate websites in the course of their normal day. Getting 1/10th of a point for surfing the forums I like would be nice and I doubt it would be game breaking. I could view 20 threads I'm interested in and earn two points, in the same time I could hit the stumbleupon button and earn 40+ points as I would likely spend less time at each of those sites. Which one of these actions is more abusive? |
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zous Level 20
PathmakerPosts: 1035 |
ya dogcat, I knew where you were coming from, I was just pointing out something I found humorous is all Basically, I'm not in disagreement with you. It would be nice to get more for any page. But the idea is that they are simply trying to encourage certain actions, and surfing the same sites over and over, day after day is not one of them. Either way, I also agree that the current situation is iffy. Many people just hit sites for the points and don't care about the URL. That being said, I highly doubt that the system was just plucked out of the air. Also, I'm sure it will evolve more over time. No matter what you do you'll have people on any side arguing why their system is better, but in the end it matters on what ends the devs wish to promote. Lastly, I personally could go for an "every site matters, but same domains net you less and less points" kind of system. I also feel full domains should be read, and not just the root domain (so that you'd get DP for maps.google.com, docs.google.com, and mail.google.com, which are all different applications, just happen to all be google) But alas, it's not my choice ;) |
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