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migol Level 8 Seer Posts: 7	It isn't a bug really, because PMOG works like it should but I'm forom poland and every time I go to Youtube with for ex.: http://youtube.com/watch?v=oNCbp... i get ridirected to http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=oN... (note pl at beginning of URL). This crashes all the missions that have links to Youtube (a lot have). So I think you should make exception for it so two URLs mentioned earlier will be treated as same URL. by migol 7 months ago \| Permalink
riscy Level 17 Destroyer Posts: 1059	On a mission recently I got the message from youtube : "that video is not available in your country" :( by riscy 7 months ago \| Permalink
migol Level 8 Seer Posts: 7	This is not the problem I mean in this post. by migol 7 months ago \| Permalink
riscy Level 17 Destroyer Posts: 1059	I know it is different, but I did not want to start another thread for such a similar problem :) by riscy 7 months ago \| Permalink
pixielo Level 20 Pathmaker Posts: 3706	@Migol YouTube and other big sites like eBay, Yahoo!, Google, etc. will always re-route to the local version. This problem has been discussed a lot. There's not a lot that Pmog can do about it. Try a manual fix, just changing it a bit, or asking the mission maker for the next link. http://pmog.com/forums/straturgy... by pixielo 7 months ago \| Permalink
mmmpi Level 20 Pathmaker Posts: 554	What video sites do work well for Pmog? I have found one of the videos I want to link to from youtube on Daily Motion, google video and aol video. Any feedback on the ones that work best with no breaking? by mmmpi 7 months ago \| Permalink
migol Level 8 Seer Posts: 7	@pixielo this is not a good solution to the problem, even if PMOG developers are aware of it. There are little number of such behaving pages THAT ARE SO POPULAR and it will be easy job to override this setting with some "if" clauses. by migol 7 months ago \| Permalink
pixielo Level 20 Pathmaker Posts: 3706	@Migol No, it's not a solution--but Pmog cannot change what your local internet provider reroutes address calls to...that just does not happen. by pixielo 7 months ago \| Permalink
zous Level 20 Pathmaker Posts: 1036	@migol it's not that simple as the PMOG developers don't know how many of these other domains there are. Poland is not the only one, if they did it for you then they'd have to make the exception for most anyone outside of the United States. Not only that, but as Pixielo pointed out, youtube is also not the only culprit. It's not the job of the developers to keep track of every country's version of popular sites. I'm sorry you're having difficulty, but it is most likely not as simple as adding some "if" clauses. by zous 7 months ago \| Permalink
migol Level 8 Seer Posts: 7	@zous I know it IS that simple, I'm a pro programmer creating huge web systems and I know how is it done. @pixielo This is done NOT by my local ISP, but by Youtube itself. by migol 7 months ago \| Permalink
salmontickler Steward Level 20 Destroyer Posts: 1428	@migol I sort of have to disagree with you here migol, If a player puts a lightpost on myglobalvideosite.com and tests his mission with success and publishes it. You cannot expect PMOG to monitor every mission just incase you visit because you are redirected to pl.myglobalvideosite.com it isnt as simple as adding some if statements, if you are what you say and think about how missions work within PMOG you will realise that it is out of their control, and virtually impossible for them to anticipate and cater for. my pet hate is someone throwing the "i'm a web developer" into forums or "i'm a developer." I have a CCIE to my name, of which there are less than 14000 qualified engineers in THE WORLD, but i dont put it on every post when I talk about Routers or how internet sites work. I guess its an issue you will have to live with, or if you are half sensible you will find the greasemonkey script I found in 2 minutes of searching to prevent this happening to you. by salmontickler 7 months ago \| Permalink
zous Level 20 Pathmaker Posts: 1036	@migol Sure, if they made a single exception for you, it'd be that simple. But that would open them up to saying this is their problem and fixing it for everyone. Assuming it was created with forethought, a full fix would require much more than if statements. It'd require a much larger piece for something which shouldn't be their concern. If someone wanted to handle all of the possibilities in if statements, then they'd open themselves to a nightmare beyond belief. Also, you said right there that it's being done by youtube. It's not occuring due to PMOG. This is not PMOG's fault. If you want someone to blame, blame the people who are redirecting you. Lastly, I don't appreciate your tone of voice. You are not the only web developer in the world. Also, being so dismissive of people who have been here dealing with this problem for many months now is not going to make any friends. If you must continue to push this, then go ahead. But be warned that many people have already told you the work around. I don't think anyone here can give you anymore help that you haven't already heard. by zous 7 months ago \| Permalink
pixielo Level 20 Pathmaker Posts: 3706	@Migol Wow. Being angry, shouty and dismissive of the posts in response to yours is just not the way to go about getting any help whatsoever... If you are in fact "a pro programmer creating huge web systems and I know how is it done." Then perhaps you will take Salmontickler's advice and 'fix' your problem. See, he's in the UK, and so has first-hand experience of your 'problem.' However, he saw fit to not be a whiner, blaming Pmog, the code, etc. and chose to take matters into his own hands... ;) by pixielo 7 months ago \| Permalink
migol Level 8 Seer Posts: 7	Yeah, I know, but from my experience imy tone of voice makes sense, because tons of sites use same mechanysm and youtube site use prefix only, while other parts of URL are same. You state that there are tons of that kind of sites, but how many are such popular as Youtube? None I think. Oh, except http://www.google.com/ which translates to http://www.google.pl . But who would put a lightpost on it? Anyway I see you don't have this problem, so you don't want anybody from this project to spend time on it. And no, I don't blame PMOG. All software have bugs. And developers should fix them. by migol 7 months ago \| Permalink
pixielo Level 20 Pathmaker Posts: 3706	So, let me get this straight...you want Pmog to fix a problem being caused by YouTube? That's just silly. I wouldn't ask MicroSoft to fix a problem being caused by Google...they are completely unrelated companies. Why ask Pmog to fix a 'problem' that is caused only by geography? Try and use that script that Salmontickler suggested, a person of your talents should figure that out in no time. by pixielo 7 months ago \| Permalink
zous Level 20 Pathmaker Posts: 1036	Migol, the way I see it is that if PMOG thought it were their problem, they would fix it. You've already stated that this is Youtube's doing, not PMOG's doing. Therefore, it's not something they created and not something they should fix. From my experience, your tone of voice does not make sense. Like I said, you are not the only developer in the world. Also, you should note that PMOG's head developer is from the UK himself. So he has to deal with it, even if Pixielo and I did not. As he is from the UK, it would be a much more pressing matter to him nonetheless, and as they have decided not to focus on it, I'm not about to question their reasoning as to why not. Also, salmontickler pointed you in the correct direction to fix this yourself. Instead of doing so you continue to push PMOG to fix something which is not their's to fix. Lastly, "All software have bugs. And developers should fix them." That's true, the problem is that this is not a bug. This is not a problem with the existing code. Sure it's a hurdle for you, but come off it already. There are already many things for them to be fixing and new pieces to work on before they start fixing something that isn't broken. And before you argue this point, I'll define what I mean by "not broken". It's working the way they say it should and therefore is not broken, whether or not you agree with their definition about how it should work. by zous 7 months ago \| Permalink
chetyre Steward Level 20 Pathmaker Posts: 1265	FOR ANYONE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH YOUTUBE IN MISSIONS: You know, for most websites that have different domains for different countries, you can set what country it displays in! Really! When you're on youtube, click on the little hyperlink that says "site" in the upper right corner next to all of the account options (and if you don't have an account, I'm sure you can do this anyway). Set the country to "global". DONE. THAT'S IT. I honestly don't know how to do it for other domains that redirect. But I can tell you, for a website like YouTube it's as simple as that. I'm sure that with a little poking around you'll find similar options on other websites. No offense, but PMOG is mainly an English domain. I'm sure the developers weren't thinking about little errors like this when they made the system for lightposts. I'm sure that this is on the dev's plate, but it's also been a busy week for some of the devs. Just relax for a bit and I'm sure that this will be fixed at some point in time. For now, you can use what I said for YouTube and see if there are options like that for other sites. /thread by chetyre 7 months ago \| Permalink
migol Level 8 Seer Posts: 7	@chetyre: And this is someone who;s words are worth in gold. No babling about "This is not a problem with PMOG, Youtube should change". @pixielo: Heard about something like compatibility? by migol 7 months ago \| Permalink
zous Level 20 Pathmaker Posts: 1036	If you notice, the fix was on YouTube's end of it, not PMOG's So, you still lose the by zous 7 months ago \| Permalink
migol Level 8 Seer Posts: 7	@zous: Yeah, right... Because @^http://[a-z]{2}\.youtube\.com/@http://www\.youtube\.com/@ would me just to hard to implement. by migol 7 months ago \| Permalink
pixielo Level 20 Pathmaker Posts: 3706	=) by pixielo 7 months ago \| Permalink